COME ON, SOLDIER, PROVE YOU HAVE PTSD!
85SO HOW DID YOU GET PTSD, SOLDIER?
You know when you receive a flyer in the mail that your friendly neighborhood bank wants to help you or that the local branch of a megabank has a deal for you, you don’t, for a second, really believe that, do you? Whatever the deal is, it’s going to be a better deal for the bank, right? And that’s okay, Because that’s business.
But healing our Veterans is not a business or at least it is not a business we are going to make money off of. And when the Veteran’s Administration tells you, as a Veteran, that they are there to help you, you want to believe them, hook, line, and sinker. Right? Why wouldn’t they be there to help you? That is their sole mandate and purpose for existence.
So it has been quite disillusioning, even to myself (not a Veteran), that over the years the VA has made it difficult or impossible for combat veterans to receive eligible treatment and benefits for post traumatic stress. So this week’s news that the Veterans Administration has made it less complicated and less stressful for Veterans is an Hallelujah!http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/07/12/veterans.ptsd/index.html
Can you believe this? Prior to this week, it wasn’t good enough that your doctor diagnosed you with PTSD. You had to pinpoint and document the exact incident of your war experience that precipitated the PTSD. What kind of people would make such a stipulation? What might be there agenda?
"Let’s see, I think it was on the seventh day of body bag duty....No, I think it was the day I put my best friend in a body bag....No, I think it was the first time I pulled the trigger....No, I think it was the day I was on patrol and that bus, about a block away from where I was standing, was blown up by a suicide bomber....No, I think it was the day my buddy’s head landed in my lap....No, I think it was the day I almost lost my leg....No, I think it was the day I did lose my leg....No, I think it was the day I chased a sniper into a house and I ended up killing the women and children inside. Never did find the #$%&& sniper. Ooops, wasn’t supposed to talk about that...No, I think it was the day I lost my dick in an explosion. No big deal. Maybe someone can make me a new one, but I don’t know if I will ever get back my soul or my humanity. I don’t know if I can ever make love again with or without my penis. I don’t know if I believe in love anymore."
Check out for yourself the criteria for diagnosing Post Traumatic Stress. http://www.mental-health-today.com/ptsd/dsm.htm
The bottom line is Post Traumatic Stress is the result of exposure to an extreme event that threatens your life. TRAUMA for short.
War and even training for war IS trauma. There are no singular events in training for war or war itself that are traumatic. It’s the totality of the experience of your life and your buddies’ lives being on the line. You are always looking life and death in the face. That reality is drilled into your head and soul day and night from the moment you enter boot camp.
Think about it! Come on, use your common sense! War is not politics. It’s not hosting a radio show while you smoke a fat cigar or winning an election or deeming yourself the one who gets to decide who the good guys and bad guys are. Training for war and war itself is KILLING people and trying not to get killed yourself.
Does anyone get that? It’s not learning how to aim a rocket or pushing buttons miles away from the combat site, it’s not about firing rockets into the target zone, it’s not about sitting behind a video game consul and flying a drone, it’s not about making a sweep to root out evil. It is about KILLING people.
Now how many of you reading this have killed someone? And if you haven’t, what would it take for you to kill someone? Yes, it requires crossing a line. Even when it comes to "simple uncomplicated" self defense, no matter how well-trained you are in the martial arts or self defense techniques and maneuvers, if you do not go inside and cross that line, the line that separates those who consciously choose to kill from those who won’t, all the self defense training in the world will leave you DEAD and your attacker running down the street with your wallet or your purse. Well, actually, with your LIFE.
What were our leaders thinking when they came up with the stipulation that a soldier had to document the "cause" of his PTSD. Unfortunately, they were thinking the same thing they were thinking, when after removing the stipulation, they had to, they just had to, make the statement that the door is now open for fraud. Soldiers will begin to fake PTSD to get benefits. SHAME ON THE PEOPLE WHO MADE THAT STATEMENT! SHAME ON THEM! There is no faking this condition. It is part and parcel of war. Healing PTSD is the price of war, and if we are not willing to pay that price, then we need to think twice about going to war.
It costs us "only" a million dollars to have an infantry person on the ground in Iraq or Afghanistan for a year. We are willing to pay a million dollars, but that’s it. We will pay for you to be on the ground, but we’re not willing to pay for the consequences of having you on the ground. What is that? That kind of thinking or not thinking? What is it telling us about those who lead us into war? What are their interests? It certainly cannot be freedom, because a soldier loses his freedom. For the rest of his life, he is captive to his desire to kill and to the haunting memories of all the people he has killed. He is captive to a haunting guilt for still being alive while so many around him went down, and he may be captive to physical injuries that keep him imprisoned in a wheel chair or hospital bed, or if he is "lucky," chained only to an artificial limb.
If our President and Congress deem it necessary to go to war, then we need to be the big boys and girls we claim to be and take responsibility for the consequences of war.
One consequence will never go away. Soldier will come back CHANGED people and will remain changed and stuck in the terrors of war, if we do not step up to the plate and insure each and every soldier’s healing. There are no stipulations or conditions here. Its not that we heal only those who are extra broken or those who we judge have a weak constitution. We do not go out of our way NOT to heal anyone who might be faking, as if there is something to fake. THE FAKE CARD IS ONLY IN THE DECKS OF THOSE LEADERS AND SPOKESPERSONS WHO PRETEND THAT WAR IS SOMETHING OTHER THAN WHAT IT IS.
There is nothing good about war. There is nothing sanitary about war, and there is no way to make war less traumatizing no matter how technologically advanced we become. War is ugly. War smells. It smells of blood, burnt flesh, dead bodies, magots. The sounds are deafening. The screams of incoming artillery or of wounded people rubs one’s nerves right to the bone. The experience is RAW. The experience is the stuff of nightmares. It leaves people faithless, hopeless, paranoid, scared, torn-apart physically, emotionally, and mentally. War is an experience that literally BLOWS UP everything you ever believed about life, about people, about love, about your self. SHAME ON YOU who worry that someone is going to cost us extra money by faking the consequences of war. You don’t give a rat’s ass about how much Haliburton over charges their contracts, how much money has to be paid out to keep the natives on our side. Those of you who are so concerned about someone faking PTSD, please, put on your combat fatigues, and get out there, get right into it, into the war, and then tell me if you’re still concerned.
Everyone of our children whom we sacrifice to the gods of war DESERVES treatment and benefits. More importantly, they deserve us to be at their side and on their side especially when they come home. They already fought for their lives with the so-called enemy and miraculously survived. Up until this week, the VA has required them to come home and fight yet another war. Talk about going out of our way to underscore that EVERYONE, even the folks mandated to care for you, is the enemy.
Yes, we made the changes. But SHAME ON US for ever making these cost saving stipulations in the first place. And shame on those who continue to worry about the cost of taking care of our soldiers. Congress estimated the cost with these new changes to be about five billion dollars. Not a lot of money when you think of what we, as a country, spend on, for example, bailing out the banks!
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Thanks for your service Cheaptrick.
Though I know there are a few good Docs in the Va system. if it concerns Service related disability they drag their feet. shuffle you around and run lots of pointless tests.
and generally forget to schedule you to give you the results. To be honest some treat us vets as the Red headed step children of America.
Now, as an old vet, it still sickens me to go to the V.A. Hospital and talk to some of these kids coming back from this insanity that our government keeps us involved in. The last time I was there a young guy I talked to while we were waiting for blood work told me how different he felt since he's been back. He's been through 2 tours in Iraq and they were trying to send him back for a 3rd. This kid was a wreck, he even said his mother didn't know him anymore. It saddens me. As for PTSD, it doesn't suprise me they do nothing to help, hell it took many years before they would admit agent orange was causing health issues. We were to believe that it killed plant life but had no affect on humans. Anyway great hub. Peace!! Tom
Well written Vern, As a grandmother to one in the marine's and another one going in August my heart read every word with hope and concern...Thank you
Qualifier #1: I am not a veteran.
Qualifier #2: I have experience with PTSD, which resulted from a head injury that put me in a coma for 10 days.
Vern, you have started a very important forum. Few of us civilians have any idea of the stress levels our soldiers experience. It is hopeful to see comments left by older, wiser vets who are concerned for the younger ones. Who else would a young vet be able to listen to?
Vern, I just wrote a lengthy comment and it vanished into cyberspace! Long story short. Great hub! It bugs me that VA doesn't recognize or hire independently licensed clinical counselors, but they do hire independent social workers. VA does do cutting edge treatment with PTSD, though. And there are problems sorting out who is truly injured and who is malingering -trying to avoid duty or fake illness/injury to get a cushy medical discharge. As you know, some people experience trauma and never do develop PTSD. And there are some who develop substance use problems, depression and other forms of anxiety instead of or in addition to PTSD! And then, the toll it takes on the family! Awesome, awesome hub Vern. Thank you.
Agreed that we all experience significant emotional experiences and trauma, that those experiences effect us, and denying or dissociating from our feelings about these events is harmful. Agreed that war is clearly traumatic. Disagreed that everyone who experiences trauma develops PTSD.
Even in peacetime, there were "soldiers" who couldn't cope with the physical and psychological demands of basic training. They were paid to sit on the sidelines while the rest of us persevered. And those of us who persevered were rewarded with a sense of pride that we could do the seemingly impossible.
I see more violence on my TV in the comfort of my living room in a single night, than I ever imagined while training to kill in Army Basic Training. I was traumatized watching "shock and awe" on my TV and watching planes crash into the twin towers and bodies splat onto the concrete from 10 stories above. I've been traumatized by home visits I've made and things I've witnessed while working in a jail. I was traumatized when I witnessed a child hit by a car. I was traumatized when drill seargents called us pissants and numbnuts. Trauma yes, PTSD no......but where do I go to sign up for the benefit, and what symptoms should I report? I'll need the benefits when I tell my employer what a "nut job" I am because I served my country.
PS Vern. Voted up and awesome again! Thanks.
I was very glad to see the Obama administration give a lot more support and money to agencies that both work with Vets and their families. Having to pinpoint PTSD? How crazy is that. So people had to relieve all of their worst experiences and try to remember which one shook them the most?
THanks for sharing this hub
Well written, vrbmft. A lot of people have no clue what it's like to live with PTSD, whether it be a result of war, or even something else traumatic that has ocurred in their lives.
Asking a person who is living with PTSD to pinpoint the cause is like asking them to relive what happened, which only makes matters worse.
I take my hat off to any veteran that has lived through war or conflict of any sort.
Voted up.
If those in Washington are so set on spending money, for God's sakes spend it on our Veterans first. If one has not walked in a man's boots in times of war, they have no idea what he has experience or how it affected him or her psychologically. War is beyond the scope of fright in most humans. Living under minute under the stress that maybe your time is up or that of your team members. No one can function that way. It has to be surpressed and when it is, it eventually surfaces and has its effect. We waste taxpayer money on a lot of less important things with little or no validation in doing it. It's time to take care of our own. WB
Ha! Excellent write, I marked it all up across the board!
I wake up every morning and reach for a stump sock on my night stand and powder my stump and lower leg and foot socket, then strap it all in place, then I can get up and limp to the coffee machine. I'll never forget because I'm reminded daily at the price my friends and brothers paid the day that it took place and how and why I limp as I walk, the VA thinks it's been close to forty years and by now I should be past my status. How might a man forget? how lucky he was to loose only a foot and lower leg piece and now have a replacement to rise and walk to the wall and pencil rub the names of those who are finished that day, upon a piece of paper to take home and hang on the wall of his den beneath photographs of them only 19 at best. They tell me take down the picture so you can forget, well damn them all, I'll never forget or take down the pictures of those who did so well that I can be here in their stead. May God bless them all and we meet again in Heaven so I might thank them face to face and know it was worth the price.
Damn obama as well, I'll never forget his words that " "they knew what they were getting into, and they should pay for their own care".
With a tear in my eye I'll shut up now, thanks for the article, 50
As a combat veteran, I was diagnosed for PTSD two years later after I got out . In those two years I lost myself and pushed everybody away that loved me. This is true what he said about war. In Iraq, was a whole different world. The smell of dead bodies and stuff we did was normal to us . Yes I lost my two of my buddies there and did stuff I was not proud of. When I got out ,I was a changed man. I don't value life anymore and I cannot enjoy the simplest things. These are the consequences I have to live with and I thank civilians for their support.
Another great hub with your amazing heartfelt energy shining through. The world is a better place with people like you in it.
I would also like to point out a couple of minor errors in your text which you might want to correct and I hope you would do the same for me if you ever come across errors in my hubs. 12 lines from the bottom children WHOM we sacrifice and second last line of second paragraph That is THEIR sole mandate. You can simply deny this comment once you have read it so it doesn't show up at the end of this great hub.
It is about time. I have PTSD in my thinking. Have for 30 plus years. I am a vet. Saw a guy try and kill himself. Still bothers me. That was in 84. My best friend killed himself in 98. I started having flashbacks and just went off the charts. This is a nasty disorder.
Vern-
One issue that an individual Soldier faces in trying to define his condition as PTSD. As an example (and wholly not to flaunt "how bad I've seen it"), I'd had 5 Iraqis blown up and their remains peppered all over me to where I was covered from head to toe with human parts. And I can look at that sentence and know that maybe I should feel ashamed for the lack of sorrow in the way it is written, but that is exactly what happened. I don't know if I suffer from PTSD but I know that I don't wake up at night with cold sweats and night terrors about that incident or any of the others. So when I do receive my in-processing back to home station upon redeployment and the Army jams you into a gymnasium or like facility and you get in line to be seen by a counselor that doesn't look you in the eyes or ask you "Do you have any mental health issues you'd like to discuss" e.g., how is a guy (or gal) to respond if they have no idea?
I appreciate everything you wrote vrbmft i don't understand the system anymore just today 3.15.12 i had to provide my psychologist with a written statement from an NCO that was there at the present time of the 207 MM rocket attack on 11 July 2007! yea 2007 BULLSH!T! i have nightmares almost every night but us all being veterans one way or the other know we don't talk about "it" im angry 24-7 on edge all the time and i sleep walk and almost did harm to my significant other in my sleep i sleep on the couch because im too rough in my sleep i really don't know what else to do i feel like im lost and will never be found. If you could help anyway possible it would be greatly appreciated you can email me at trap.sltlr@gmail.com i really need someone to talk to.....please
Reading this was very helpful. I have been dating my veteran boyfriend for a while now. I just met him after he came back from his 1 year tour in Afghanistan and was officially out of the army. He's 22 and has a wonderful heart and is an amazing person but what I do know is that he is a different man after coming back. He has been diagnosed with PTSD had a couple PTSD attacks since we have been together and when this happens I give him his space because that's what he asks or more like tells me. Does anyone know if that's what I should be doing? It kills me to see him like this. One day he will be lovey and cuddly the next he will be distant and not even say a word to me.... I'm sure this is normal with people who have this condition but reassurance would be nice. I just wish I knew what went on inside his head. I personally haven't been through anything close to war but I do know what it's like to be scared for your life and feel like your going to die and have to defend yourself. But anyways thank you to whoever wrote this. It helped me understand more. I just want to see him happy. It's hard when his own mother said, " I sent them a happy kid and they brought me back a broken man." I want what's best for him. I love him deeply. Any advice?
Thank you Vern
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cheaptrick Level 3 Commenter 22 months ago
VA statistics for 2009:every day 18 vets commit suicide.Multiply that by 365...25% of the homeless population are vets.
Two tours...south east Asia 1969/1972...Sgt Marine Corps.
I thank you for the kids I see every day who still don't understand what the hell happened during there tour in the Gulf.
Dean